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Postby esox99 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 17:18

another numpty question :blush: , but at what age or size do they become sexually active wether it be mbunas or haps, the reason for asking is that i got my new tank up and running about 6 weeks ago, and after 2 weeks of running it fishless, i went and got 3 yellow lab at 1 and half inch long and 4 otopharynx lithobates at the same size, and there now just over the 2 inch mark, come home last friday and find what i thought was a sub male yellow lab, is a female and shes holding, again come home thursday after working away, and now 1 of the otopharynx holding :shock: and yet otopharynx are still in there camo/ mottled brown color :?: .
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Re: sexual maturity

Postby Clare » Fri Jul 30, 2010 17:38

l.careuleus are prone to breeding at a young age. It normally depends on species, size and how far from wild they are in gene's. Wilds tend to breed alot later than TB.
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Re: sexual maturity

Postby esox99 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 20:12

thank you clare, i just got caught of guard, i didn,t expect anything to happen for a while yet
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Re: sexual maturity

Postby tony » Mon Aug 02, 2010 22:53

Clare wrote:l.careuleus are prone to breeding at a young age. It normally depends on species, size and how far from wild they are in gene's. Wilds tend to breed alot later than TB.


hi clare,

i think you will find the reason for wilds taking a lot longer to breed than F1 or tank bred is nothing to do with "genes",just simply the fact that F1 and tank bred fish have been born and raised in aquarium condition's and are adapted ,,used to....know no different conditions,so will breed readily.

where as wilds have been used to lake water ,not aquarium conditions "shall we say just to keep things easy",if you keep wilds in good water they will breed as readily as F1 and tank bred fish,

just an example ,

wild fish in the country nov 28th 2009,i recieved them 2nd january 2010 (very thin out of condition),i quarantined the fish further (as i do my quarantine ),,spawned mid febuary,fry @ 3-4 cm by june 2010

that to me is not " take longer to breed than tank bred fish ",,its the water you keep them in not "fish genes" :good:

just my personal findings clare ,as with the other wilds i have breed :good:
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Re: sexual maturity

Postby Clare » Mon Aug 02, 2010 23:29

I do not think we can actually test that theory as no small juvies are collected from the lake. To test that theory we would have to have a very very young wild fish to compare to a very young TB in the same water conditions.
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Re: sexual maturity

Postby tony » Tue Aug 03, 2010 00:14

Clare wrote:I do not think we can actually test that theory as no small juvies are collected from the lake. To test that theory we would have to have a very very young wild fish to compare to a very young TB in the same water conditions.


fair comment clare regarding theory/proof,but like all animals/creatures,,as soon as they become sexualy able/mature they breed .

i was making comment to your comment "different genes ?" :good:
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Re: sexual maturity

Postby Clare » Tue Aug 03, 2010 00:26

I know you was. :P

I did mean it in the same context as you also said though, but it can be read the way you read it also. :good:
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Re: sexual maturity

Postby tony » Tue Aug 03, 2010 00:35

:good: :good:
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